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| Would you prefer the LEDs to show which mode you are in when moving the mouse or all the time? |
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HoPi`
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Just tried your script, nice work 
Some thoughts that came to my mind during the first 30 minutes of playing around:
- In Firefox mode, the d-pad keys left and right do not cycle tabs as I expected them - the tabs are cycled "last visited" and not "left or right". With my tab tab-extension (I don't know about basic Firefox tab handling), I would use ctrl+tab for "last visited", ctrl+pgup for "one tab left" and ctrl+pgdown for "one tab right". What's intended here?
- Is calibration within GlovePIE needed?
- What about program profiles? I can start programs with the Wiimote, why not start certain PIE-scripts when the programs run? For example, I could map my script FPSControl.PIE to halflife.exe and have custom controls, esp. DirectInput.
- I'd like to have the possibility to choose between mouse-movement via tilting and mouse-movement via pointing (using a sensor-bar or similar). In my opinion, there're some nice scripts which do a good job on this one.
| Quote: | | I hope everyone is loving the new quick zoom feature. |
Good one, indeed, but what about lowering the sensitivity to about 2/3 or even 1/2? Makes sense to me 
| Quote: | | Now I think typing in text mode could be easier/faster..... |
Have you thought about using the WinXP-builtin on-screen-keyboard (%windir%\system32\osk.exe)? I think it's a nice alternative for the text-mode: instead of mapping the Wiimote-keys to letters and stuff, you could start the OSK, put the mouse cursor inside the window and lower the sensitivity a little bit (haven't found a way to make the OSK bigger).
So far, goob job! |
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tic
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much for your comments HoPi`. I will take them all onboard.
| Quote: | In Firefox mode, the d-pad keys left and right do not cycle tabs as I expected them
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I didnt realise it was not going left and right through tabs. I will alter this.
Edit: I dont understand what you mean. currently it does go left and right through tabs. it uses ctrl+tab forwards and ctrl+shift+tab back
| Quote: | | Is calibration within GlovePIE needed? |
No calibration should be needed. it only works on tilt sensitive buttons and these values should be universal
| Quote: | | why not start certain PIE-scripts when the programs run? |
http://www.wiili.org/forum/ideas-for-4th-mode-of-tic-wiipc-t1937.html
Read that and let me know whether you think that would be a good idea
I would want to make 4th mode into whichever script you chose in the config, or make it more dynamic, like you say, that it moves to 4th mode when a specific exe is detected in full screen for example.
| Quote: | | I'd like to have the possibility to choose between mouse-movement via tilting and mouse-movement via pointing (using a sensor-bar or similar). In my opinion, there're some nice scripts which do a good job on this one. |
I know! I have dual screens and many of them I have seen have a lot of bugs in, and I would want anything I release to be universal on anyones pc. I've tried my own, but it had the same bugs :/ Rest assured though, that I will add it, and make it so that you can use both titl and IR at the same time, as it will use IR if it can see the bar, and switch back when it cant see.
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Good one, indeed, but what about lowering the sensitivity to about 2/3 or even 1/2? |
Ill add optional zoom levels into the config, or do you mean lower mouse sensitivity?
| Quote: | | Have you thought about using the WinXP-builtin on-screen-keyboard |
I doubt I'm gonna do this unless I come up with a perfect IR script, and then make my own on-screen keyboard, that appears over the screen and then disappears when finished typing, as it takes up too much screen space, which was my reasoning behind making Quick Zoom.
I hope you continue posting your findings and any bugs you may encounter. |
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HoPi`
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| tic wrote: | | Quote: | In Firefox mode, the d-pad keys left and right do not cycle tabs as I expected them
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I didnt realise it was not going left and right through tabs. I will alter this.
Edit: I dont understand what you mean. currently it does go left and right through tabs. it uses ctrl+tab forwards and ctrl+shift+tab back |
Ok, I saw that coming... I use Tab Mix Plus and I set it to "when pressing ctrl+tab, show the last used tab" (and not the one to the right). My bad - I might just change the key mapping in your script myself
| Quote: | http://www.wiili.org/forum/ideas-for-4th-mode-of-tic-wiipc-t1937.html
Read that and let me know whether you think that would be a good idea
I would want to make 4th mode into whichever script you chose in the config, or make it more dynamic, like you say, that it moves to 4th mode when a specific exe is detected in full screen for example. |
How about both? If I double-click in mode 3, 3 behaviours might be possible:
a) no script defined in config dialog, go directly to mode 1, do not collect $200
b) run script bleh.pie (as user-defined in the config dialog)
c) a tiny menu opens and offers the possibility to run bleh.pie, blah.pie and foo.pie (so the 4th mode isn't tied down to just 1 script)
And if I start a certain exe file (that was specified in the config dialog), script blubb.pie is triggered. I don't know about your config tool, the programming language you used (C++? Delphi?), the possibilities of GlovePIE (just started fooling around with the language) or about your skills - so don't blame me if I overestimate you
| Quote: | | Quote: | | I'd like to have the possibility to choose between mouse-movement via tilting and mouse-movement via pointing (using a sensor-bar or similar). In my opinion, there're some nice scripts which do a good job on this one. |
I know! I have dual screens and many of them I have seen have a lot of bugs in, and I would want anything I release to be universal on anyones pc. |
Do dual screens work worse than a single one?
| Quote: | | I've tried my own, but it had the same bugs :/ |
I have tried the scripts that came with GlovePIE, don't know about others. What bugs do you mean? I "just" noticed an overall dizzyness of the cursors (which could be fixed by using IR leds and no candles like I do  ).
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Good one, indeed, but what about lowering the sensitivity to about 2/3 or even 1/2? |
Ill add optional zoom levels into the config, or do you mean lower mouse sensitivity? |
Lower mouse sensitivity. It's like a sniper rifle in first person shooters: when you zoom in, the aim is more accurate due to a lowering of the sensitivity itself (and the increased size of course). Deactivating the scope mode re-sets the sens.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Have you thought about using the WinXP-builtin on-screen-keyboard |
I doubt I'm gonna do this unless I come up with a perfect IR script, and then make my own on-screen keyboard, that appears over the screen and then disappears when finished typing, as it takes up too much screen space, which was my reasoning behind making Quick Zoom. |
I don't see a connection between typing and quick zoom What about an cursor-controllable on-screen keyboard? I just love the idea, sorry |
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tic
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | How about both? If I double-click in mode 3, 3 behaviours might be possible:
a) no script defined in config dialog, go directly to mode 1, do not collect $200
b) run script bleh.pie (as user-defined in the config dialog)
c) a tiny menu opens and offers the possibility to run bleh.pie, blah.pie and foo.pie (so the 4th mode isn't tied down to just 1 script)
And if I start a certain exe file (that was specified in the config dialog), script blubb.pie is triggered |
I do like the sound of this, and will start making it for a beta.
| Quote: | | I don't know about your config tool, the programming language you used (C++? Delphi?), the possibilities of GlovePIE (just started fooling around with the language) or about your skills - so don't blame me if I overestimate you Smile |
Dont worry about my programming skills If you have an idea, no matter how insane, if its good I will add it
| Quote: | | Do dual screens work worse than a single one? |
Play around a bit more and youll come across a wealth of bugs. Have you not seen the inverting bug yet? ir the 1 where it sometimes does nothing? or some that wont work on anything past 1 screen as they assume you could only have 1, or carls 6DOF that is unusably jerky (sorry CK )
| Quote: | | I don't see a connection between typing and quick zoom Smile What about an cursor-controllable on-screen keyboard? I just love the idea, sorry Wink |
Actually thats not a bad idea. make it exactly the same as the wii one, so if u click in an area that can be typed in then it will form a full screen GUI with keyboard, and then controls could just be left/right/up/down and enter to choose what you wanna type. all of this could be copied to the clipboard by the program and when you click ok then it pastes it all into the current text field. would be a lot fo work, but could then be used when a decent IR script comes out.
I was comparing the onscreen keyboard as being what Quick Zoom is to windows magnifer, as windows magnier takes up screen space. |
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ajp_anton
Joined: 14 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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For more accurate mouse movement, you should make smaller tilts move the cursor much slower but still keep the faster movement with more tilt.
With my portable Mac, moving you finger 2x faster on the touchpad makes the cursor move like 4x faster. 2x more tilt = 4x more speed.
Could this work with the IR sensor too?
Also, would it be possible to make it see what program you are running?
You could choose what controls you want to use with different applications, and every time you use that app, it will automatically switch to the controls you chose to use with it.
Have you tried to make the Toshiba-Wiimote connection automatic? |
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tic
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | For more accurate mouse movement, you should make smaller tilts move the cursor much slower but still keep the faster movement with more tilt. |
It already does this, and when you change the mouse sensitivity then this becomes more apparent.
| Quote: | With my portable Mac, moving you finger 2x faster on the touchpad makes the cursor move like 4x faster. 2x more tilt = 4x more speed.
Could this work with the IR sensor too? |
It could be done with IR, but a completely non bugged IR script is needed 1st, and it probably wouldnt be needed with IR?? as surely it points wherever you point, so why would you want it to move faster?
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Also, would it be possible to make it see what program you are running?
You could choose what controls you want to use with different applications, and every time you use that app, it will automatically switch to the controls you chose to use with it. |
Yep that could be done and I will look into that for the 4th mode, but shose not to do it for the other modes as for example i want it to increase the text size in firefox with +/- and in windows to enable/disable Quick Zoom, so i want both things to be possible to me at any point.
| Quote: | | Have you tried to make the Toshiba-Wiimote connection automatic? |
I will look at it I promise! but I have my dissertation due tomorrow and I'm still in Uni doing it at half 3! |
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HoPi`
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| hm... "Uni" with capitals, "half 3"... german? |
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