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KTurbo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject:

luis_villase wrote:
OK, first of all, focus your interests here. If you want WiiLi to run because you want to run your backups... get a modchip, it will get you there much easier. This is not our purpose (we are officially against it). If your interests are not these, please keep reading.

Instead of asking for progress, you should try and help! There's still so much work to be done. Most of us don't have the knowledge to run actual tests on our Wii, but you can still try and help preparing the version that will be ported. That's the real purpose of this particular forum. WiiLi Link is precisely about preparing a Linux version BEFORE it gets to the Wii. If you are interested, apply for a task and do it, for nothing will get done by itself.

There are some parallel projects going on here that will help. OpenPIE for instance (will give us usability and programmability for the Wiimote). But there are a couple more if you poke around. WiiLi Link needs special help on some tasks, there's still a lot to be done (check here).

Please... pretty please... don't go asking how's the project going (unless you are checking status in order to help on something).

KTurbo: I really love your logic. Of course! Why didn't we think of this before? It's solved by hacking! Let's get our "magic hacking machine" to get the job done. Hacking is a very complex process dude! It may involve anything from talking to a distracted Nintendo dev that will give details (not very likely to happen) to reverse engineering the whole console (some rev-en has been done, actually). It's not like you have a manual on hacking and will apply for every single case. Consoles are a special case and each and every one of them will have different methods to avoid exactly what we are trying to do (not because they don't want us to run Linux, but because they don't want us to run bootlegs/backups).

I hope I'm not being to redundant about this, but please, instead of complaining and asking, give your ideas, or even better, your skills.


I'm not asking for any kind of 'backup' support or implement. I'm asking for the sake of curiousity and, possibly, helping. By asking if you were going to solve it through hacking, I was wondering whether you would have to hack the Wii console itself or by just finding out the right bits and bytes to put in the header of the disc

Knowing that WiiLi, probably, would run of it's own code and it's own set of drivers it's easy to figure out that applications like OPENpie would be an essential part of WiiLi.

Hacking has never been easy, especially when you don't really know how a console is running. I asked this to get a straight answer for once, every time I've been asking what's going on, how everything is coming along, if I could help, I've just been called an idiot and told that there is nothing to do at all. I'm not stupid, I do know one thing about programming. I may not be excellent, but what you said seem redundant and rude.

Idea, yeah I've got them. Graphical skills, yeah I've got them. Programming skills, yeah I've got some (Probably not on the right level, though).

Oh, and excuse me for posting in the wrong forum. But there are like 1 000 of them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject:

It's not like that, I'm really sorry if I was rude. All I meant was that sometimes people ask things the wrong way. You have to give that to me, more than sounding like 'hey guys, how's it coming? can I help?', it sounds like 'hey guys, are you done yet?'. At least that's the impression I get.

I'm not saying that you are stupid, at all. It's just that your post about solving the problem by 'hacking' was too much (I went over the edge, I admit). I don't doubt you have the skills (no one here's an expert). On the other hand, I think we should hear (read?) your ideas and see which ones can be put into practice. I'm sure you have as much to give to the community and the project as anyone else.

About the backups, well... that was not for you (actually most of the post wasn't). An important group of readers here tends to lose that particular detail, that's all.

Finally, I never said you posted on the wrong forum (I know there's a lot of them and some discussions tend to repeat, but that's not in our control).

The post was not intended as a direct attack or flame to you, it was more of an attention call for people that push but don't help. Once more, I apologize for being rude.
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KTurbo



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject:

luis_villase wrote:
It's not like that, I'm really sorry if I was rude. All I meant was that sometimes people ask things the wrong way. You have to give that to me, more than sounding like 'hey guys, how's it coming? can I help?', it sounds like 'hey guys, are you done yet?'. At least that's the impression I get.

I'm not saying that you are stupid, at all. It's just that your post about solving the problem by 'hacking' was too much (I went over the edge, I admit). I don't doubt you have the skills (no one here's an expert). On the other hand, I think we should hear (read?) your ideas and see which ones can be put into practice. I'm sure you have as much to give to the community and the project as anyone else.

About the backups, well... that was not for you (actually most of the post wasn't). An important group of readers here tends to lose that particular detail, that's all.

Finally, I never said you posted on the wrong forum (I know there's a lot of them and some discussions tend to repeat, but that's not in our control).

The post was not intended as a direct attack or flame to you, it was more of an attention call for people that push but don't help. Once more, I apologize for being rude.


That is OK, let's just leave this. Anyway, what I think you guys should do is to reduce or group all the forums, making it easier for everyone. Maybe?
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bt86bt



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject:

Thanks for response.

I am not interested in wiili for backups either, but would really _really_ like my wii as a cheap pc to connect to my tv.

Would also like to help, but got no real skill in either graph or code so guess I can only be part of the test-group. My wii is chipped and I have a system that I easily can adapt to test any linux dist on iso.

But what I wonder is... where are the progress right now? When I check the page http://www.wiili.org/index.php/WiiLi_Link it looks good with an ISO beeing prepared (if we disregard the part where there isnt any way yet to get it on wii) but the FTP is offline.

It says it is offline "for the moment" but that was in february, right? So what is going on... Has there been any estimate for success or is wiiLi considerd a lost cause and has been abandoned?

The only good news I can see is that there is updates on the first page so the page at least looks active.

Anyway, please please let me know if there is any way I can help.
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shortperson



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject:

Hey...
Sorry to sound annoying, and I know I've been gone for a while, but WiiLi Link needs to get done (kinda badly, it's been sitting there for a while). I love the ideas of the project though, and I would hate to see it go to waste, especially with all these advancements that have been occurring on the Wii homebrew scene.

Any help you need getting it done? I am willing to devote some time, so even if it is a tedious task, I will try my best to complete it. Also, I probably can mirror, as I have a 1 and 1 business hosting account (running my own server is too much haha).
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metalicaman8



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject:

Is there any chance you could post a mirror? I would really like to see the source because I am still learning and a project of this size for something I am interested in would be a great project to study.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject:

What the heck? No way no run it on the wii? How's progress now that homebrew channel is out, as well as twilight hack?
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