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OSfllwr
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Israel
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: Delusional cooperation |
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The things in Iraq took yet another wrong turn when Bush forced Maliki to meet him in Jordan. The meeting did not help Republicans in the elections, but broke the Iraqi coalition. The faction of Shiite cleric al-Sadr walked out of the government coalition, as promised, because of the meeting.
No one in Iraq has a slightest doubt that Maliki is an American quisling. That’s ok with the people. In Muslims countries, rulers are not expected to represent population; the US and the Qaeda each tries to change that. Muslims are very extroversive and value fac,ade and rituals. Maliki could be a puppet, but he should behave like a tiger – Iraqi tiger. At least, Maliki managed to skip social meeting with Bush and Jordanian King Abdullah (Olmert ignored Arab mentality and met Abdullah several times, a PR disaster).
If that attention to rituals looks silly to rational Americans, it probably is. But that’s how it works in the region. To reach an agreement with Iraqis – rather than simply punish the Baathist state – the US negotiators would have to sit hours and days with various Iraqis, both bureaucrats and radicals, drinking super-sweet Iranian tea, chain-smoking on par with their opponents and talking, talking, and talking. That might or might not bring the desired results, but no other approach could deliver a stable, moderate, US-friendly Iraq.
To please his American masters, Maliki brought together fictitious coalition. Its Shiite faction does not include al-Sadr’s group, the main Shiite organization. It includes only a minor Sunni party, also non-representative. The coalition is advertised as moderate, but listen to the names: Sunni Iraqi Islamic Party (sectarians), the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution (sic) in Iraq, and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (separatist organization, as the name makes clear).
The coalition is meant to squeeze Sadr out of politics. He would indeed go – into the urban battlefields. Sadr could show himself a good Muslim, promise to step down the fighting – and use the truce to train his forces. He needs time to grow the Mahdi gang into an army.
Sistani’s approval won’t cement the coalition. He is merely a religious authority. Religious power in Islam is very dispersed because every cleric and theoretically every Muslim could pronounce fatwas. People go along with famous clerics insofar as they opportunistically serve the mob’s wishes. Sistani cannot afford to condemn fighting the Sunnis, thus his blessing of the coalition could only be half-hearted. Moreover, Shiite militia includes few fundamentalists who would blindly obey Sistani. They are common guerrillas who only superficially subscribe to religion or ideology. They fight for the sake of killing. Their loyalty is with Sadr. Iran – al-Sadr’s sponsor – does not care about Iraqi Shiite bosses such as Sistani. Civil war in Iraq suits Iranian national interest: strong and hostile neighbor turns into protectorate.
Iran, not Sadr is the problem, but Sadr handsomely contributes to the situation. Oddly, the US loses its soldiers, kills Iraqis and allows still larger numbers to die in the conflict while al-Sadr, who orchestrates much of the violence, lives in safety. Why not assassinate him?
The White House PR people offended the common sense when they staged Robert Gates’ meeting with a dozen of handpicked soldiers who assured him that the army is on the right track. |
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vpshockwave
Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 31
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| He's not going to change the license. Please go away. |
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CarlKenner Site Admin
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 614
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Assasinating Sadr is not an option. Sadr has huge popularity amongst half the Shiites. Look at what happened in Lebanon when an unpopular christian "leader" was assasinated. Almost civil war. Assasinating Sadr would cause a bloodbath, and it would be a disaster for support for the US occupation both in Iraq and the USA. Actually much of Sadr's popularity stems from his father's assasination.
Basically the USA has no choice but to tolerate the fact that forces loyal to Sadr are present at every level of the puppet government and its army. They just have to hope that this keeps Sadr feeling like part of the government rather than fighting against it.
Iran is definately not the problem in Iraq. Not that the US could do anything about Iran if it was. The foreign fighters causing problems in Iraq are simply the Americans.
There is now no possibility of a "stable, moderate, US-friendly Iraq". They had that under Saddam Hussein, but that wasn't enough for them. Now they have totally destroyed the country, and in doing so have turned the vast majority of Iraqis against them.
I should point out that stable, moderate, and US-friendly are contradictory terms anyway. Supporting the US massacres in the region is definately not moderate. And supporting the US against the will of the majority of your population isn't exactly a recipe for stability. |
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Sumo X
Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Unfortunately this has no relevance to Wiili, so it should probably be locked. I'd love to share my opinions, but again, this is not the place to be doing it. |
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AIK
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ...or it could just be moved to 'general', which would enable the fun to continue! |
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TylerK

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 384 Location: Springfield, IL
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Loki
Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Iowa, U.S.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Second the ban |
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