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24c3 tweezer attack: homebrew mission accomplished?
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fortunzfavor



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: 24c3 tweezer attack: homebrew mission accomplished?

Didn't see this posted elsewhere, but then I haven't been here in a while.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5YB1Mmx7E4

Via NWF

Anyone understand that well enough to try duplicating it?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject:

No, I certainly are not capable of that. Razz

What this means to the homebrew comunity of it's legit is alot! I hear now people are worried about Nintendo updating the system to make this impossible. They could do that, but if the homebrew scene are faster to create their own FW then there won't be a problem, ever. Very Happy

Nintendo server: Wii need update!
HBFW: Wii do not!
Nintendo server: Yes, here you are.
HBFW: Ok, "updated"
Nintendo server: Ok, fine. Play that damn game which needs this new FW. Razz

Just speculations, but that could work.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject:

I think this is more hardware related than firmware related... Well, the initial exploit anyways. The encryption keys that they mentioned will probably be changed by Nintendo ;/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject:

FC wrote:
I think this is more hardware related than firmware related... Well, the initial exploit anyways. The encryption keys that they mentioned will probably be changed by Nintendo ;/


That's what I meant, they could just add a rutine that will clear or change the unused memory in GC mode. Or something like taht.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject:

KTurbo wrote:
FC wrote:
I think this is more hardware related than firmware related... Well, the initial exploit anyways. The encryption keys that they mentioned will probably be changed by Nintendo ;/


That's what I meant, they could just add a rutine that will clear or change the unused memory in GC mode. Or something like taht.


They already have the encryption keys afaik... Nintendo can't really do anything now, unless they intend to break all of their older games.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject:

ceribik wrote:
KTurbo wrote:
FC wrote:
I think this is more hardware related than firmware related... Well, the initial exploit anyways. The encryption keys that they mentioned will probably be changed by Nintendo ;/


That's what I meant, they could just add a rutine that will clear or change the unused memory in GC mode. Or something like taht.


They already have the encryption keys afaik... Nintendo can't really do anything now, unless they intend to break all of their older games.


There's that. They can also change the hardware on newer consoles. Though there are almost 20M consoles sold.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject:

for some reason that sounds a lot like the PSP's homebrew scene Razz
Hopefully Nintendo will be less 'security patch update' happy than Sony.
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